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As we continue to examine various quotes, some underlying logic problems surface. For instance, assume for a moment that the trinity is true. This presents a grave dilemma. How does the Father send the Son if they are the same being?—“…I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which has sent me” (John 5:30). Is this passage intended to be poetic? If the Father did not literally send Christ, meaning that Jesus actually remained inextricably bound as one Being with the Father and Holy Spirit, the verse loses its meaning. Would God expect us to “see through” what He has offered as mere poetic analogy?

Also, we could ask: How could Christ do the will of His Father if they were the same Being? Would He not be doing his own will? Considering an earlier statement, how would two-thirds of the supposed godhead (the Father and the Holy Spirit) defer to a pseudo-human Christ while He was on earth for 33½ years?

Further, if the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are a single Being (a single entity) how did—how could—one-third of one being die? Some have suggested, and this is really the only conclusion that the trinity permits, that there are two Christ’s. One has been called the “glorified psychic Christ,” what could be called a kind of divine carcass sent to earth for the purpose of dying on the stake—and the other the “infinite eternal Christ” who remained locked in the godhead as part of the three-in-one god being. Two Christ’s means four beings in the godhead. Of course, all of this is ridiculous and we are only including it as part of a rhetorical discussion! But it must be understood that you have one of two problems with the trinity: (1) It requires two Christ’s, or (2) one-third of a single being had to find a way to die.

Do not let trinitarians tell you that you must accept this mystery on faith. What has been called a mystery is simply ludicrous, and something that reasonable minds would ultimately reject on merit! Are you better understanding why trinitarians state that to understand this teaching would cause one to “lose his mind”?

But let’s go further. To where did Jesus Christ ascend if He was already part of the trinity (John 3:13)—if He had remained in heaven all along? Did the one Christ ascend and merge into the other Christ?

There is also another problem.

How could Jesus Christ be our mediator (I Tim. 2:5) if He is one part of a single being, meaning all parts would have the same thoughts and feelings! If Christ was a third of the trinity, one part of God’s mind would be mediating to the other two-thirds of the same mind.

And going further: The Bible also states that Christ sits at the Father’s right hand (Matt. 22:44). How does one-third of one being sit at the right hand of another third of that same being? How wonderful it is that such impossibilities may always be swept from the table under the mantra, “Remember, it is a mystery.”

Grave Problems

While the logic above is ridiculous to the point of almost being humorous, there is something much more sinister hidden within the overall problem of the trinity. If the only Jesus Christ that there is did not actually die, but remained alive as part of the trinity—then mankind has no saviour!

Paul wrote, “the wages of sin is death” (Rom. 6:23). Christ had to literally die for this penalty to be satisfied.

If men have no Saviour, we are all “yet in our sins [still under the death penalty]” (I Cor. 15:17). All then have no hope of a future resurrection. If that were the case, as Paul stated, “we are of all men most miserable” (I Cor 15:19). In I Cor 15:32, Paul shows that if this life is all that we have to look forward to, we might as well “eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die” with no hope.

Toying with who and what God is becomes a very dangerous exercise—one much more fraught with problems than most seem to recognize!

It is human nature to make what is simple complex. Of course, God understood this tendency when He recorded and arranged His inspired Word. We have seen that He instructed mankind that the Bible is written, “Here a little, there a little, line upon line, precept upon precept” (Isa. 28:10).

The Corinthians had fallen into the pattern of taking what is simple and unnecessarily confusing it. Notice what Paul wrote: “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ” (II Cor. 11:3).

If God instructs His people to prove what they believe, they would never be permitted to—and He would never expect them to have to—guess at doctrines so central to Christianity. Whether and how you and I have a Saviour is very, very central to Christianity! Therefore, God must supply His servants with clear answers on all matters crucial to salvation and this certainly includes what He is!

The reader should strive to remember Paul’s admonition. The doctrines of God should be simple to understand when all of the basic scriptures on a matter are placed together. Always remember that there is to be simplicity in Christ—and the “Christ” we have just discussed is far from that.