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CHILDREN NEED TO KNOW WHAT SCRIPTURE TEACHES, NOT WHAT BILL WIESE TEACHES

Listen carefully-hear me out: Nowhere in Scripture (absolutely NOWHERE) does God assign a punishment greater than death on any person for ANY SIN! Would you like a few Scriptures on that fact?

Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die.

Num 35:16 And if he smite him with an instrument of iron, so that he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.

Exo 21:15 And he that smites his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

Lev 20:15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.

Eze 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sins, it ( that specific soul) shall die.

What about in the New Testament? It's the same as for the Old Testament:

Rom 6:23 For the wages ( Gk: rations) of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Does anyone see the penalty as being "eternal torture in the fires of hell" in any of these Scriptures? No? And neither do other verses contradict these verses.

Forget men's theories on this subject, what are the facts? Do scientists believe that dead people are still alive in death? Of course not. Well then, do the Scriptures teach that dead people are still alive? It is an amazing admission of ignorance of the Scriptures to even ask such an utterly foolish question. Here is the answer from Scripture:

"For, the living, know that they should die, - but, the dead, know not, ANYTHING," (Ecclesiastes 9:5).

So in death, one doesn't know anything. Therefore he can't even think, and this is exactly what the Scriptures teach us:

"Praise ye the LORD. Praise the LORD, O my soul. While I LIVE will I praise the LORD: I will sing praises unto my God while I have any being. Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goes forth, he returns to his earth; in that very day ( when he dies and is dead) his thoughts perish" (Psalm 146:1-4).

"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave (Hebrew: 'sheol-hades the state of the dead) who shall give thee thanks?" (Psalm 6:5).

Internationally famous theologian John Hagee says that sheol/hades/hell is a place of "REMEMBERANCE!" Oh really? John Hagee says hell is a place of "remembrance," whereas the Holy Scriptures tell us that "in death there is NO REMEMRANCE." Who ya gonna believe?

"Whatsoever your hand finds to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device (Hebrew: 'reason or intelligence'), nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave (Hebrew 'sheol-hades or the state of the dead), where you go." (Ecclesiastes 9:10).

Can you not see that just these few verses of Scripture totally contradict the pagan Christian doctrine that death is really life at a different location? When one dies, he knows not anything; at death his thoughts perish; in death there is no remembrance of God; there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom in the grave ( in 'sheol/hades-the state of the dead) .

You have never seen these Scriptures expounded upon in Church.

But aren't the wicked and unbelievers supposed to be judged? Yes, of course, but not at death, neither in an eternal fire pit of some pagan hell. Ever hear of "The resurrection of the DEAD?" Now there's central doctrine of Scripture that has all but been totally discarded by Christian teaching. The Resurrection is totally unnecessary in Christian doctrine, seeing they teach when a good person dies he goes to Heaven, and when a wicked person dies he goes to Hell. What need is there for a resurrection from the dead to Judgment if he is never really dead in the first place, but is rather assigned either hell or heaven without being judged - without having his day in court?

Yet according to Scripture, the resurrection from the dead is of paramount importance:

"Now if Christ be preached that He rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ: whom He raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only, we have hope in Christ we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the first fruits of them that slept" (I Cor. 15:12-20).

If Believers die and go immediately to Heaven, they don't need to be resurrected from the dead. Apparently the Church doesn't think that Paul knew what he was talking about - without a resurrection from the dead, there is no life! The only way a dead person can have life again is if he is "resurrected from the dead." And that resurrection from the dead is yet future, it assuredly does not occur at death.

Hundreds of more Scriptures could be added to this list. Now then, does anyone have a single Scripture which teaches that the wages of sin is "life in fire for all eternity?" No, of course not. For all the spurious uses of such words as hell, hell fire, and an explanation of such phrases as "everlasting punishment," (which are still found in many English translations of the Scriptures, but thankfully not all), see my eight Installments on "Hell" at our bible-truths.com home page,

Paul the apostle admonishes us to be:

"Upholding the faithful word according to the teaching, that he may be able to entreat with sound teaching ( doctrine, instruction) as well as to expose those who contradict ( it) " (Titus 1:9 Concordant Literal N.T.)

It is my purpose in this paper to do just that-teach sound doctrine & expose those who contradict sound doctrine. And I know of no piece of literature written in my lifetime that contradicts sound Scriptural doctrine, as does this miserable piece of garbage entitled: 23 Minutes in Hell.

NEW YORK TIMES BEST SELLER LIST: 23 Minutes in Hell.

The book 23 Minutes in Hell is a story by Bill Wiese (a California real estate agent) who on Monday November 23, 1998, at 3:00 a.m. says he was taken out of his body by God and found himself "travelling, journeying, and falling" (his words not mine) 3700 miles to the near-center of the earth into a rock walled prison cell containing 13 foot reptilian like demons with human forms. Bill says that the demons of hell fulfill their "desires, pleasure, and amusement" (his words not mine) by torturing billions of people for all eternity.

One such demon ripped the flesh right off of Bill's body. Bill said his flesh grew back in 30 seconds, and could be ripped off again and again for all eternity. Bill witnessed pits of fire with humans writhing with pain and misery, screaming for mercy only to be pushed back into the fire by demons. He saw spiders as big as Volkswagens, and snakes as large as locomotives. And to emphasize the fear he experienced in hell, Bill presents us with a shark attack he says he was personally involved in.

BILL'S UNVERIFIABLE SHARK ATTACK & $25,000 SPEEDING TICKET

Along with a plethora of lies and contradictions, there were two stories in Bill's book that sounded particularly fabricated to me. One dealt with a shark attack that ripped the leg right off of a man only a few feet from Bill and his friend, and the other about a judge who paid his daughter's $25,000 speeding ticket. I sent Bill Wiese the email below.

Soul Choice Ministries P.O. Box 26588 Santa Ana, CA 92799

Dear Bill Wiese or whom it may concern:

I purchased the book "23 Minutes in Hell," and have a few questions regarding two scenarios mentioned in the book. I need to have more information on the following shark attack recorded in your book on page 23:

"Now try to picture the most fearful moment of your life. For me, I remember one morning when, as a teenager, I was surfing off the coast of Florida. A school of sharks showed up and surrounded us. We frantically began paddling toward the beach, and in the frenzy, a guy nearby had his leg torn off. Then one shark knocked me completely off my board. My friend Rene and I were now literally swimming with the sharks. We desperately tried to get to the shore, but I sincerely felt that the blood in the water combined with the number of sharks was a certain death sentence. Suddenly, a nine foot shark grabbed my leg in its mouth and pulled me down. For seemingly no reason, the shark let me go without a mark (thank God!), and Rene and I swam to shore."

Please furnish me with the following information regarding this attack:

What was the date of this shark attack? Where was the exact location of the attack? Who was the guy who had his leg ripped off by the shark (full name)?

Did he survive?

Do you still have the board that was bitten "right in half?" (Surely this was a trophy that anyone would have kept to display, so I assume you still have this board, do you not?)

Where did they take the legless man for emergency medical attention (local hospital, trauma center, etc.)? Who were the emergency responders (police, medics, lifeguards, etc.)? Where are the reports of this tragedy - newspapers, television, radio)? The second scenario I question is presented on page 76-77 where:

"A judge set the fine at the maximum of $25,000 for his daughter's speeding ticket, and then paid the fine for her."

Please furnish me with the following information regarding this incident:

Where and when did this scenario take place? What courthouse? Who was this judge?

Where is this story recorded?

What is your source for this story?

Thank you for your help on these two incidents reported in your book. I have enclosed a self-addressed envelope for your convenience, as it is very important that I know the answers to these questions.

Sincerely, Ray Smith

Here then is the ridiculous answer I received back from Bill to my inquiry. How did I know that he would not answer my questions?

Dear Ray,

Thank you for your questions and for reading our book. As for the exact date of the shark attack, I was only 16 and I don't remember. I was with a friend, Rene, and we always surfed together. I didn't find out if the other guy lived. We were surfing, we didn't follow the ambulance to the hospital. We were from out of area. We were just grateful to be alive. It was south of Cocoa Beach, Fl. about 40 years ago.

As for your second question; I gave a quote, as noted in my book. I wouldn't have those details. Proof of the Judge story is not the point. I was curious as to why that would be so important to you?

Thank you,

Bill

Bill's reply to my e-mail was of no value whatsoever, except to verify my suspicion that the two stories never happened.

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