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===='''THE DARK TRUTH about tithing that your church never tells you'''====
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===='''CAN YOU ANSWER THESE TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LIFE OF JESUS? YOU ARE AMAZING!'''====
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'''Jews Seen As Evil Intruders'''
 
 
'''Who Displaced'''
 
 
'''The Native Peoples Of Palestine'''
 
 
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Dr. Michael Brown November 27, 2023 jewish people
 
 
What moved hundreds of thousands of people around the world to support the BLM cause? Was it a bleeding heart for Black Americans? Or did something else animate this global phenomenon? Today, we can ask in a similar spirit, “What unites tens of millions worldwide around the Free Palestine cause?”
 
 
Is it a heart of compassion for the needs of the Palestinians? Or is something else animating this global phenomenon?
 
 
When it comes to the latter, there is no question that hatred of the state of Israel, and more broadly, hatred of the Jewish people, helps animate the pro-Palestinian cause. If people really cared about the Palestinians themselves, there would not be Palestinian refugee camps in countries like Lebanon and Syria, and the Palestinians would have been granted full citizenship in the surrounding Arab countries at some point after the 1948 war.
 
 
When it comes to Black Americans, since when have the other nations that joined in the BLM protests, such as S. Korea, Bulgaria, Denmark, and many others, cared about the plight of Black Americans? Since when was alleged American police brutality a point of concern for the international community?
 
 
Surely there is no international concern about the plight of suffering Blacks in other parts of the world, such as Nigeria, where tens of thousands of Black Christians have been slaughtered in recent years.
 
 
No, there is something else that animates these worldwide protests, something that unifies these widely disparate cultures and peoples, straight out of the Marxist playbook.
 
 
As explained by Jeff Fynn-Paul in his book Not Stolen:
 
 
The Truth About European Colonialism in the New World, “The origins of today’s radical anti-Europeanism—the same anti-Europeanism that has gone mainstream in the past few years—lie in the intellectual ferment of the 1960s and ’70s. As New Left campus Marxism reached a high-water mark in the 1970s, Marxist historians began a concerted assault on the foundations of American history.
 
 
“The problem with American history from their perspective was that it made capitalism look too good: American democracy empowered the people; its melting pot welcomed everyone, albeit not without serious friction, and its economic system rewarded hard work more often than not. Marxist historians therefore determined to rewrite American history to show their version of the ‘truth’: that America was a ‘system’ rooted in unrelenting oppression.”
 
 
This view was popularized by the radical American historian Howard Zinn. As Fynn-Paul explains, “In Zinn’s view, history always consists of precisely two groups: the oppressor and the oppressed. The ‘system’ perpetuates conflict between these two groups, ensuring the domination of one group over another. In Zinn’s pessimistic view, oppression rather than freedom was the very foundation of the United States and its Constitution.
 
 
“Thus, critical feminist scholars ‘discovered’ that history revolved around males oppressing females, while critical race theorists discovered that history revolved around the oppression and slavery of black people by white people. Post-colonial theorists accordingly discovered that history revolved around the oppression of Indigenous People by Europeans. Soon, critical ‘intersectionality’ theorists lumped all these identity-based oppressions together, discovering that wealthy, straight, white European males were the ultimate oppressors in history, while poor, black, gay or gender-fluid Indigenous women of color were the ultimate victims.”
 
 
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Jewish Community Waking Up to the Dangerous Realities of the Left
 
Put another way, “Down with the evil colonizers! Down with the oppressor class!”
 
 
The connection to Israel is not hard to see, as the Jewish people are portrayed as European colonizers and oppressors, the evil intruders who displaced the native peoples of Palestine. Add to this a little antisemitism to help fuel the fires, just as a little anti-Americanism helped fuel the worldwide BLM protests, and you have an explosion.
 
 
To be clear, Fynn-Paul does not deny the sins of our European forbears, writing, “Though we now find it difficult to believe, the extent of European cruelty toward Native Americans was well researched and publicized before the rise of social media. Thus it was common knowledge among historians that Europeans were responsible for population decline, forced conversions, provoking wars, countless treaty violations, the Trail of Tears, the California Indian massacres, the extinction of the buffalo, racial prejudice and discrimination, confinement on reservations, and continued marginalization of many Native groups.”
 
 
He simply pushes back against highly biased, academically imbalanced reconstructions of American history. Similarly, sound historians today do not paint an entirely blameless picture of the State of Israel. They simply resist the distorted, even propagandistic retelling of recent Middle Eastern history.
 
 
As Fynn-Paul notes with regard to rewriting American history, “These narratives have been filling the minds of Western journalists, bureaucrats, and politicians with the same old 1970s theories, dressed in alluring new clothes.” (For an in-depth treatment of the impact of Marxist ideology on America today, see Christopher Rufo, America’s Cultural Revolution: How the Radical Left Conquered Everything.)
 
 
That’s why Kyle Morris was right to note that, “The anti-Israel movement roiling major American cities and college campuses following the outbreak of Israel’s war with Hamas bears a striking resemblance to other movements favored by social justice activists, experts suggest.”
 
 
And Morris quoted Rufo, who said, “The left-wing academics who have been cheering on violent ‘decolonization’ against Jews have been pushing the same hideous rhetoric against ‘whiteness’ for years. Same ideology. Same hatred. Same bloodlust.”
 
 
'''Absolutely, undeniably true.'''
 
 
Rufo pointed out that the “academic left treat the Hamas fighter as a noble savage who symbolizes revolt against the West and through whom the academic can experience the thrill of violence.” And he explained that, “The fighter is seen as the physical embodiment of the jargon: ‘decolonization,’ ‘resistance,’ ‘power.’ Time to connect the dots and fight it together.”
 
 
Tine to connect the dots indeed. And time to fight back together, with the truth serving as our most powerful weapon.
 
 
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Dr. Michael Brown (www.askdrbrown.org) is the host of the nationally syndicated Line of Fire radio program.
 
 
His latest book is Revival Or We Die: A Great Awakening Is Our Only Hope. Connect with him on Facebook or Twitter, or YouTube.
 
 
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'''Homosexuality and the Campaign for Immorality'''
 
 
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'''5 Words that Destroy the Trinity'''
 
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'''This Is A Final Warning From God - Paul Washer and John MacArthur'''
 
 
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'''Trinity World's Kenodoxia Jesus'''<BR>
 
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True servants of the Lord do not tell lies about him and thereby lead others to follow another Jesus.
 
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The Trinity was Man, Woman and Child. When Constantine returned to Rome from Egypt and they created the Council of Nicea, then recreated the Trinity to Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
 
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<FONT color="#ooooaa" size="6">'''Jesus did indeed Deny he is God -''' '''Mark 10:18'''</font><br>
 
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'''Jesus never ever was seeking his own will, or his own glory nor did he ever exalt himself in any way shape or form as the Trinitarian swaggering Jesus routinely does.'''  Rather, the true and genuine Jesus totally humbled himself completely surrendering himself to his God from whom all good comes seeking only to do his Father's good not his own will.  Jesus knew all good came from his God and for that reason at '''Mark 10:18''' he responded to this man who called him GOOD Teacher by saying, "Why do you call me good?  No one is good but God alone."  Jesus was indeed a teacher but his teaching was not his own but came from his God and he did not speak from himself.  '''John 7:16-18'''<br>
 
 
'''Brother Kel'''
 
 
"I do not seek my glory.  There is ONE who seeks and judges".... The Jews said... "WHO do you make yourself out to be?” Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing.  IT IS MY FATHER WHO GLORIFIES ME, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.  '''John 8:50-54'''
 
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<p>"The bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world...I came down from heaven" (John 6:33,38).</p>
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<p>These words, and others like them, are misused to support the wrong idea that Jesus physically existed in Heaven before his birth. The following points, however, must be noted:</p>
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<p>1. Trinitarians take these words as literal in order to prove their point.</p>
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<p>However, if we are to take them literally, then this means that somehow</p>
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<p>Jesus literally floated down through the skies. Not only is the Bible totally silent about this, but the language of Jesus being conceived as a baby in Mary's womb is made meaningless. Jn.6:60 describes the teaching about the manna as a saying "hard to take in" (Moffatt's Translation); i.e. we need to understand that it is figurative language being used.</p>
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<p>2. In John 6, Jesus is explaining how the manna was a type of himself. The manna was sent from God in the sense that it was God who was responsible for creating it on the earth; it did not physically float down from the throne of God in Heaven. Thus Christ's coming from Heaven is to be understood likewise; he was created on earth, by the Holy Spirit acting upon the womb of Mary (Lk.1:35).</p>
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<p>3. Jesus says that "the bread that I will give is my flesh" (Jn.6:51).</p>
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<p>Trinitarians claim that it was the 'God' part of Jesus which came down from Heaven. But Jesus says that it was his "flesh" which was the bread which came down from Heaven. Likewise Jesus associates the bread from Heaven with himself as the "Son of man" (Jn.6:62), not 'God the Son'.</p>
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<p>4. In this same passage in John 6 there is abundant evidence that Jesus was not equal to God. "The living Father hath sent me" (Jn.6:57) shows that Jesus and God do not share co-equality; and the fact that "I live by the Father" (Jn.6:57) is hardly the 'co-eternity' of which Trinitarians speak.</p>
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<p>5. It must be asked, When and how did Jesus 'come down' from Heaven?</p>
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<p>Trinitarians use these verses in John 6 to 'prove' that Jesus came down from Heaven at his birth. But Jesus speaks of himself as "he which cometh down from heaven" (Jn 6:33,50), as if it is an ongoing process. Speaking of God's gift of Jesus, Christ said "My Father is giving you the bread" from Heaven (Jn 6:32 Weymouth). At the time Jesus was speaking these words, he had already 'come down' in a certain sense, in that he had been sent by God.</p>
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<p>Because of this, he could also speak in the past tense: "I am the living bread which came down from Heaven" (Jn 6:51). But he also speaks about 'coming down' as the bread from Heaven in the form of his death on the cross: "The bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world" (Jn 6:51). So we have Jesus speaking here of having already come down from Heaven, being in the process of 'coming down', and still having to 'come down' in his death on the cross. This fact alone should prove that 'coming down' refers to God manifesting Himself, rather than only referring to Christ's birth. This is conclusively proved by all the Old Testament references to God 'coming down' having just this same meaning. Thus God saw the affliction of His people in Egypt, and 'came down' to save them through Moses. He has seen our bondage to sin, and has 'come down' or manifested Himself, by sending Jesus as the equivalent to Moses to lead us out of sin.</p>

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"The bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world...I came down from heaven" (John 6:33,38).

These words, and others like them, are misused to support the wrong idea that Jesus physically existed in Heaven before his birth. The following points, however, must be noted:

1. Trinitarians take these words as literal in order to prove their point.

However, if we are to take them literally, then this means that somehow

Jesus literally floated down through the skies. Not only is the Bible totally silent about this, but the language of Jesus being conceived as a baby in Mary's womb is made meaningless. Jn.6:60 describes the teaching about the manna as a saying "hard to take in" (Moffatt's Translation); i.e. we need to understand that it is figurative language being used.

2. In John 6, Jesus is explaining how the manna was a type of himself. The manna was sent from God in the sense that it was God who was responsible for creating it on the earth; it did not physically float down from the throne of God in Heaven. Thus Christ's coming from Heaven is to be understood likewise; he was created on earth, by the Holy Spirit acting upon the womb of Mary (Lk.1:35).

3. Jesus says that "the bread that I will give is my flesh" (Jn.6:51).

Trinitarians claim that it was the 'God' part of Jesus which came down from Heaven. But Jesus says that it was his "flesh" which was the bread which came down from Heaven. Likewise Jesus associates the bread from Heaven with himself as the "Son of man" (Jn.6:62), not 'God the Son'.

4. In this same passage in John 6 there is abundant evidence that Jesus was not equal to God. "The living Father hath sent me" (Jn.6:57) shows that Jesus and God do not share co-equality; and the fact that "I live by the Father" (Jn.6:57) is hardly the 'co-eternity' of which Trinitarians speak.

5. It must be asked, When and how did Jesus 'come down' from Heaven?

Trinitarians use these verses in John 6 to 'prove' that Jesus came down from Heaven at his birth. But Jesus speaks of himself as "he which cometh down from heaven" (Jn 6:33,50), as if it is an ongoing process. Speaking of God's gift of Jesus, Christ said "My Father is giving you the bread" from Heaven (Jn 6:32 Weymouth). At the time Jesus was speaking these words, he had already 'come down' in a certain sense, in that he had been sent by God.

Because of this, he could also speak in the past tense: "I am the living bread which came down from Heaven" (Jn 6:51). But he also speaks about 'coming down' as the bread from Heaven in the form of his death on the cross: "The bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world" (Jn 6:51). So we have Jesus speaking here of having already come down from Heaven, being in the process of 'coming down', and still having to 'come down' in his death on the cross. This fact alone should prove that 'coming down' refers to God manifesting Himself, rather than only referring to Christ's birth. This is conclusively proved by all the Old Testament references to God 'coming down' having just this same meaning. Thus God saw the affliction of His people in Egypt, and 'came down' to save them through Moses. He has seen our bondage to sin, and has 'come down' or manifested Himself, by sending Jesus as the equivalent to Moses to lead us out of sin.